Comments on: From Indecision to Decision http://selfleadership.com/blog/topic/leadership/from-indecision-to-decision/ Leading People to Lead People Mon, 07 May 2012 20:43:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Babatunde http://selfleadership.com/blog/topic/leadership/from-indecision-to-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-1330 Babatunde Tue, 12 May 2009 03:02:13 +0000 http://selfleadership.com/blog/?p=633#comment-1330 Andrew Bryant, I request for permission to republish the methods described above in the resolution of conflict within our conscious and unconscious minds in my currently research work on "The Plagues of Indecision". I will be grateful if my request is granted. Thanks. Babatunde Oso basjoe08@yahoo.co.uk Lagos, Nigeria, West Africa. Andrew Bryant,
I request for permission to republish the methods described above in the resolution of conflict within our conscious and unconscious minds in my currently research work on “The Plagues of Indecision”.
I will be grateful if my request is granted.
Thanks.
Babatunde Oso
basjoe08@yahoo.co.uk
Lagos, Nigeria,
West Africa.

]]> By: Andrew Bryant http://selfleadership.com/blog/topic/leadership/from-indecision-to-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-305 Andrew Bryant Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:48:45 +0000 http://selfleadership.com/blog/?p=633#comment-305 Julian thanks for your comment - I agree it can be challenging to complete the spinning icons exercises if you have not first done it with someone trained to use hypnotic language. I did offer the very language/cognitive based values elicitation as an alternative. You have however given me the idea to record the spinning icons as a podcast and post it on the blog. You have a point that your unconscious may process more than just images but as you know from your dreams it definitely does see pictures. Thanks for the feedback and yes Zurina is magnificent. Julian thanks for your comment – I agree it can be challenging to complete the spinning icons exercises if you have not first done it with someone trained to use hypnotic language. I did offer the very language/cognitive based values elicitation as an alternative. You have however given me the idea to record the spinning icons as a podcast and post it on the blog.

You have a point that your unconscious may process more than just images but as you know from your dreams it definitely does see pictures. Thanks for the feedback and yes Zurina is magnificent.

]]> By: Julian Abernathy http://selfleadership.com/blog/topic/leadership/from-indecision-to-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-295 Julian Abernathy Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:40:16 +0000 http://selfleadership.com/blog/?p=633#comment-295 Why can't NLP use language as it uses visual, auditory, & kinesthetic modes? You and Zurina must have great visualization powers, but why do you (and most NLP I read) seem to assume that people in general do? The exercise you recommend is extremely complex. I can't even get started by getting the two icons, much less also separate my hands from my body ("float up and look down") and cause the icons to spin on the separated (doubled?) palms. Did you realize that you had expected a break in or doubling of body image? I suspect not. It's like being given directions by an alien. Does it mean that you are also weak on kinesthetics, which are so concretely connected to the body? How do you know that "the unconscious mind thinks in images," that is, by implication, ONLY in images. I don't know that, and I also doubt that "thinks" is a good word here (elsewhere you used the term "processing," which feels much better). I feel sure that I have demonstrated our difference -- my preferred, usual mode is language. In spite of all of the wonderful pragmatic linguistics in NLP, language-meaning is not used the way the visual, auditory, & kinesthetic modes are. Why is that? By the way, I don't accept the classification of language as "digital"; that's a computer programmer's idiotic fantasy. It's a case of materialistic reductionism. The PHYSICAL aspect of printed & spoken WORDS are digital, but language meaning is not digital except for entirely formal or technical uses. Otherwise there would not be certain books that I spend months contemplating, reading and re-reading, and then still have to go back to again and again years later. I am not stupid, sir, just different from you & the magnificent Zurina. Why can’t NLP use language as it uses visual, auditory, & kinesthetic modes? You and Zurina must have great visualization powers, but why do you (and most NLP I read) seem to assume that people in general do? The exercise you recommend is extremely complex. I can’t even get started by getting the two icons, much less also separate my hands from my body (“float up and look down”) and cause the icons to spin on the separated (doubled?) palms. Did you realize that you had expected a break in or doubling of body image? I suspect not. It’s like being given directions by an alien. Does it mean that you are also weak on kinesthetics, which are so concretely connected to the body? How do you know that “the unconscious mind thinks in images,” that is, by implication, ONLY in images. I don’t know that, and I also doubt that “thinks” is a good word here (elsewhere you used the term “processing,” which feels much better). I feel sure that I have demonstrated our difference — my preferred, usual mode is language. In spite of all of the wonderful pragmatic linguistics in NLP, language-meaning is not used the way the visual, auditory, & kinesthetic modes are. Why is that? By the way, I don’t accept the classification of language as “digital”; that’s a computer programmer’s idiotic fantasy. It’s a case of materialistic reductionism. The PHYSICAL aspect of printed & spoken WORDS are digital, but language meaning is not digital except for entirely formal or technical uses. Otherwise there would not be certain books that I spend months contemplating, reading and re-reading, and then still have to go back to again and again years later. I am not stupid, sir, just different from you & the magnificent Zurina.

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